Fredrik Erixon talks to Matt Ridley – a journalist, thinker, author and businessman – about his new book, How Innovation Works: And Why It Flourishes in Freedom. In their conversation, Matt and Fredrik talk about how innovation happens and under what conditions that innovation thrives. Is innovation about technology – and does it flow from universities out to the economy? They also talk more specifically about innovation in the field of healthcare, in vaccination and treatment, and its implications to the Coronavirus pandemic.